woods01
Oct 23 1998
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars.collecting.vintage
> Positive Images Private Fitness:
> All of the arguing shipped
>
> This could have been a great discussion topic. I would like to hear
> everyone's input on whether or not they think vintage prices are going
> down and why.
They are going down because the hype is not there, but come 1999 when
advertisments for the new movie come out. I expect the rarer items to go back
up in price. For the cheap common stuff I think that may not go up as so much
is available.
> If you guys want to start a thread about collecting sealed items vs. MIB
> vs. loose or whatever, make a new thread.
> So, has anyone else noticed vintage prices dropping. I have on POTF
> coins in particular. I just picked up a Boba Fett, Anakin Skywalker,
> and AT-AT coin for $240 shipped. That is a big drop in prices if you
> ask me. There were 4 category V coins on Ebay recently and none of them
> ever received the 99.99 minimum bid the seller had placed on them. Not
> too long ago, these coins would have sold for at least $120-150.
>
> What do you all think?
Well I was at a toy show last weekend and here is what I got. Note that these
prices are in Canadian dollars. One U.S. dollars is worth about $1.50
Canadian. I had to make a trip to the ATM because I spent way more than I
intended but the prices were too good to pass up!
The big bank breaker was C-9.5 Unpunched 20 back Stormtrooper for $175, I
wouldn't say that is a real bargain price but apart from a few scratches on
the back this thing is MINT and carded Stormtroopers on a SW card don't show
up too often. Its the type of figure Al Rosen has wet dreams about. Also the
seller gave me the plexiglass case it was stored in for free and those cases
aren't cheap!
I then from a collector who was selling his Star Wars to collect die cast. I
got a ROTJ Luke Bespin for $80 ROTJ Royal Guard $40 ESB Black Security Guard
$25 ROTJ Biker Scout $27.50
That guy had a lot of other ROTJ MOCs of lesser characters for similar prices
and I probably should have bought more to scalp on the net :) but I did not
want to be stuck with stuff I did not want in the first place if I couldn't
trade it. Also my wallet was looking thin at that stage.
From another dealer I got a MISB Speederbike for $55. Now that wasn't a deal,
I feel a speederbike is worth $45 tops BUT this box did not have the crease
along the flap which is pretty common and the dealer wouldn't go below 55. I
figured since to buy one cheaper on the net I would have to pay $10 for money
orders, shipping, etc. it was worth it. Also at that point money had lost its
real value to me!
I spent all that going to show where I was looking for Indiana Jones toys!
The guy I got the stormtrooper from was a pretty interesting guy to chat with.
He was another one of those guys who bought one for his kids and one for
himself. He had dozens of carded Star Wars for sale and claimed it was half of
what was there when the show opened (I came late in the afternoon).He said he
had a trilogo fett moc that he sold for, I think $350 earlier in the day. It
was funny to here him complain about selling potf yaks for $300 a few years
ago. Then he mentioned he was keeping his Droids Fett and a Vlix in his
collection, so I did not feel sorry for him!
-John (who is wondering where the rent money has gone)
woods01
Oct 23 1998
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars.collecting.vintage
> Well, I got a Hoth Stormtrooper Coin on ebay a couple of weeks ago(probably
> the same auction) for $125. I was happy since that is what it cost when I
> started collecting coins about 2 years ago and I had seen it sell for as high
> as $160. I wish the bottem would totally fall out of the coin market. Yeah,
> my "investment" is lost, but then I could afford to have 2 sets to put in a
> frame, front and back.
It could be that prices were being driven up by a handful of wealthier more
desperate coin collectors and have since aquired their sets and are no longer
driving up the bids.
-John
John Wooten
Oct 23 1998
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars.collecting.vintage
>I generally lurk here because I find this group to be very stuffy and
>arrogant most of the time and also quite unfriendly to outsiders. But that
>is just my experience. Trading with various people here has been great,
>but I can't say the same for the regular/outspoken posters here. People
>here seem to be too defensive about the way they collect.
>
>I've said it before and i will say it again; I know the reasons for
>collecting NRFB, but I still think it is stupid when you ahve no way of
>seeing what is inside the box.
Maybe people would be less defensive if you didn't refer to how they collect
as "stupid" Just a thought.
John
John Wooten
Oct 23 1998
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>well, fine, and personally I tend to agree with you. Well, not that it's
>stupid, but that I don't prefer sealed. HOWEVER, I don't criticise others for
>collecting differently. Collecting sealed is just as stupid as collecting
>anything else. Collect what you like. Just because I collect carded figures
>doesn't mean I look down upon loose collectors. Hell, I started out collecting
>loose.
clap clap clap...
John
Bubba Bo Bob Fett
Oct 24 1998
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars.collecting.vintage
> Maybe people would be less defensive if you didn't refer to how they collect
> as "stupid" Just a thought.
Would you prefer everyone go the route of politicians, sugar-coat
everything and then wonder just what they hell they really mean?
Bubba Bo Bob Fett-
rlcox
Oct 24 1998
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars.collecting.vintage
> Would you prefer everyone go the route of politicians, sugar-coat
> everything and then wonder just what they hell they really mean?
Nobody's talking here about sugar coating anything. It's about respecting
others and their choices. Nobody's collecting preferences are stupid, they're
just different than your own. I could point out a million reasons why I FEEL
collecting carded figures is cooler than MISB playsets, but what's the point?
It's my preference, and it's enough. Others here might argue differently-
that's fine too. Their collecting preferences are certainly no less valid
than mine, and might be more so.
Richard
rlcox
Oct 24 1998
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And while I'm at it, a lot of people tend to get the idea that there's some
sort of collecting heirarchy, for example:
prototypes
|
|
high-end carded/sealed
|
|
carded/sealed, NRFB
|
|
loose
IMHO, there is no heirarchy, it's more like:
protos--high-end carded/sealed--carded/boxed/NRFB--loose
None is more valid or better than the rest. Of course, there are stages in
collecting, and tastes change, but I think my point (whatever it is ;^)
stands.
Richard
Michael Mierzwa
Oct 24 1998
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> And while I'm at it, a lot of people tend to get the idea that there's some
> sort of collecting heirarchy, for example:
>
> prototypes
> |
> |
> high-end carded/sealed
> |
> |
> carded/sealed, NRFB
> |
> |
> loose
>
> IMHO, there is no heirarchy, it's more like:
>
> protos--high-end carded/sealed--carded/boxed/NRFB--loose
>
> None is more valid or better than the rest. Of course, there are stages in
> collecting, and tastes change, but I think my point (whatever it is ;^)
> stands.
Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!! :)
I too have been under the impression that a minority of people on this
group have implied that there is some sort of "evolutionary" heirarchy.
I think you second cart is more like what really happens. In fact, I
suspect people slide back and forth in those categories.
Michael Mierzwa
starscrm
Oct 24 1998
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> I too have been under the impression that a minority of people on this
> group have implied that there is some sort of "evolutionary" heirarchy.
> I think you second cart is more like what really happens. In fact, I
> suspect people slide back and forth in those categories.
I agree that there isn't a heiracrhy and that no ones collection or what they
like to collect is any better than anyone elses, but I do think that people
experience a certain evolution in their collecting habits. I think that a
lot of people have gone from collectig loose , then to collecting carded,
then upgrading to mint carded, etc. I kind of agree with you that people can
move back in forth between stages, no one has to and rarely does just collect
loose figures at a certain time or just carded, but I kind of do think there
is an evoultion of interest and a development of a primary interest that
prevades many people's colllection habits. I kind of doubt that people jump
right into collecting protoypes or displays without ammassing a great deal of
other toys already.
starscrm
Andy Curto
Oct 25 1998
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars.collecting.vintage
Maybe people would be less defensive if you didn't refer to how they collect
> as "stupid" Just a thought.
>
> John
I'll second that, and I'd also like to add that any group with
characters like John here, Chris M., Paul L., and the whole pile o' the
rest of you could hardly classify as "stuffy"
Andy
Andy Curto
Oct 25 1998
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars.collecting.vintage
> Would you prefer everyone go the route of politicians, sugar-coat
> everything and then wonder just what they hell they really mean?
No, you don't need to sugarcoat anything. You can simply say "I don't
like it." and everyone knows that without having to insult people. I
personally don't collect boxed/carded because I prefer loose figs. I
don't see the point of buying a NRFB item for some of the same reasons
that you seem to not be into it, but I think it would be insulting for
me to say it's 'stupid' to all the boxed collectors. I also think it's
slightly hypocritical, how many people (non toy collectors) think that
everyone on this group, loose and boxed alike, are 'stupid' for paying
money for 'mere toys'.
My 2 cents,
Andy
Bubba Bo Bob Fett
Oct 25 1998
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars.collecting.vintage
> No, you don't need to sugarcoat anything. You can simply say "I don't
> like it." and everyone knows that without having to insult people.
I don't mince words and I am very opinionated. I let you know how I really
feel. saying "I don't like it" does not convey my true feelings and since
no one here can see my facial expressions of body language, consice
wording is the best route to go.
I don't get defensive or upset when someone says what I do is stupid. They
ahve a different point of view and are entitled to it. I don't let it
bother me and I move on with my life. I also consider the source. I am
much less likely to take the opinion of someone I do not know very
seriously. Whereas, if that same comment came from a close personal
friend, it would carry more weight and deserve more consideration. In
general, our society is wound up way too tight and tends to take things
way too seriously.
Bubba Bo Bob Fett-
Bubba Bo Bob Fett
Oct 25 1998
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> Nobody's talking here about sugar coating anything. It's about respecting
> others and their choices.
And my choice is to be of the opinion that collecting sealed boxes with
toys inside that you cannot see is stupid. Why can't anyone respect that?
> Nobody's collecting preferences are stupid, they're
> just different than your own.
True. But that doesn't mean that I am not entitled to an opinion or
expressing said opinion.
Bubba Bo Bob FEtt-
Chris Georgoulias
Oct 25 1998
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> Bubba Bo Bob Fett wrote:
> I don't mince words and I am very opinionated. I let you know how I really
> feel. saying "I don't like it" does not convey my true feelings and since
> no one here can see my facial expressions of body language, consice
> wording is the best route to go.
>
> I don't get defensive or upset when someone says what I do is stupid. They
> ahve a different point of view and are entitled to it. I don't let it
> bother me and I move on with my life. I also consider the source. I am
[cut]
> Bubba Bo Bob Fett-
Speaking of silly and stupid - the name "Bubba Bo Bob Fett". Need I say more? I don't
see how someone could name themselves that and be taken seriously, especially in a SW
collecting newsgroup.
I mean since you're opinonated and what other people say doesn't bother you and all...
-Lukey Luke Pook Skywalker
rlcox
Oct 25 1998
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars.collecting.vintage
>Bubba Bo Bob Fett wrote:
> And my choice is to be of the opinion that collecting sealed boxes with
> toys inside that you cannot see is stupid. Why can't anyone respect that?
Because respect is earned, and your comments are very disrespectful. I've
said in this thread multiple times that I don't collect MISB and have no
desire to; has anyone jumped on me? No. I respect others right to collect
what they want to, even if it's different than my preferences. It's not
stupid, it's DIFFERENT.
> > Nobody's collecting preferences are stupid, they're
> > just different than your own.
>
> True.
Then why did you say it was stupid? You're contradicting yourself.
> But that doesn't mean that I am not entitled to an opinion or
> expressing said opinion.
I never challenged your right to your opinion. My point is that you should
probably show more respect for opinions/preferences different from your own.
Richard
Bubba Bo Bob Fett
Oct 25 1998
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars.collecting.vintage
> Chris Georgoulias wrote:
> Speaking of silly and stupid - the name "Bubba Bo Bob Fett". Need I say
> more? I don't see how someone could name themselves that and be taken seriously,
> especially in a SW collecting newsgroup.
Ah, yes. I knew it wouldn't take long for the personal attacks to begin.
It just shows a lack of intelligence and the ability to talk about what is
really being discusses.
> I mean since you're opinonated and what other people say doesn't bother
> you and all...
It doesn't bother me because your opinion of me means nothing because I do
not know you. Your comments are just more proof that way too many Star
Wars fans have no sense of humor and need to lighten up about the topic
and get a life.
Bubba Bo Bob Fett- and Star Wars fans wonder why they are tought of as
geeks and wierdos by the general public
Bubba Bo Bob Fett
Oct 25 1998
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> Because respect is earned, and your comments are very disrespectful.
I don't see it that way. I much more respect for someone who is willing to
tell me how they really real about something, then trying to placate me
and make me feel good about something even though they may think its dumb
or stupid.
> Then why did you say it was stupid? You're contradicting yourself.
Sorry, I should have made my self more clear. I should have said there is
no right or wrong to way to collect, but that doesn't mean that I don't
think some of them are stupid.
> I never challenged your right to your opinion. My point is that you should
> probably show more respect for opinions/preferences different from your own.
I have all the respect in the world for different opinions, but I WIL NOT
sugar-coat feelings about topics. If that offends you, than too bad. At
least you know how I hopnestly feel about about something. I have never
said that anyone should stop collecting the way that they do. This would
be a really boring world if everyone thought the same way. As for
collecting NRFB, keep doing it guys, because it's many fewer people that I
have to compete against to get what I collect. Most people would prolly
think my style of collecting is stupid because I buy what I think is cool
and the collection is unfocused and has no rhyme or reason to it.
Bubba Bo Bob Fett-
rlcox
Oct 25 1998
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> Sorry, I should have made my self more clear. I should have said there is
> no right or wrong to way to collect, but that doesn't mean that I don't
> think some of them are stupid.
That makes no sense. It's okay that people collect differently than you, even
though it's stupid? Obviously if you think it's stupid than you think it's a
"wrong" way to collect. Whatever.
> I have all the respect in the world for different opinions, but I WIL NOT
> sugar-coat feelings about topics. If that offends you, than too bad.
Oh, don't worry. You haven't called ME stupid yet, Bubba Bo.
> least you know how I hopnestly feel about about something. I have never
> said that anyone should stop collecting the way that they do. This would
> be a really boring world if everyone thought the same way.
Even if their way is much dumber than YOURS, right? I wonder if there's a term
for collecting ethnocentricity. :^)
Richard
Chris Georgoulias
Oct 25 1998
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> Ah, yes. I knew it wouldn't take long for the personal attacks to begin.
> It just shows a lack of intelligence and the ability to talk about what is
> really being discusses.
On the contrary, it was directly related to what was being discussed. It's just that
when I applied it to your name, not your collecting style, it looked like a personal
attack. Anything sinking in right about now???
-chris
Eric Allen Ehrbar
Oct 26 1998
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars.collecting.vintage
> That makes no sense. It's okay that people collect differently than you, even
> though it's stupid? Obviously if you think it's stupid than you think it's a
> "wrong" way to collect. Whatever.
Thats where you get confused. When I say something is "stupid", I am
saying it is "stupid" TO ME. I don't want to speak for other people.
WHEN I POST SOMETHING IT IS UNDER MY OWN IMPRESSIONS. Something may be
"wrong" to me. But by me simply saying its wrong to me doesn't mean
everyone else needs to conform to it. Why is that so hard for you guys
to understand? The reason we don't jump on you for saying you don't like
one thing t collect is because we believe you have the right to say so.
You guys are the ones trying to oppress opinion.
Personally, I don't think calling a certain way of collecting "silly" or
"stupid" is dissrespectful...its just our feelings.
> Even if their way is much dumber than YOURS, right? I wonder if there's a term
> for collecting ethnocentricity. :^)
Actually, ethnocentrics believe that people should conform to their own
behavior. Bubba Bo Bob and I have said time and time again that we are
happy for you and your collecting style. Our stance is simply: to us,
collecting an MIMB toy is stupid.
Eric
Bubba Bo Bob Fett
Oct 26 1998
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars.collecting.vintage
> Chris Georgoulias Wrote:
> On the contrary, it was directly related to what was being discussed.
> It's just that when I applied it to your name, not your collecting style,
> it looked like a personal attack. Anything sinking in right about now???
That you don't know what a personal attack is. You singled me out and you
attacked my name (gee, like that hasn't already been done a million
times). That makes it a personal attack. I have not singled out anyone and
attacked them for the way they collect. MAJOR difference.
Bubba Bo Bob Fett-
Bubba Bo Bob Fett
Oct 26 1998
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> That makes no sense. It's okay that people collect differently than you, even
> though it's stupid? Obviously if you think it's stupid than you think it's a
> "wrong" way to collect. Whatever.
There is no 'right' or 'wrong' way to collect. Everyone has their own
style and everyone has their own opinions about collecting. Just because I
think something is stupid doesn't mean I think it's wrong. It's kinda like
tattoos this whole urban tribalism thing. I have several friends that are
into it. They know that I think it's stupid to maim yourself like that,
but I don't think it's wrong or think any less of that person. It's just
wrong for me. It's their decision and they are entitled to do what they
want as long as they don't force me to do it.
> Oh, don't worry. You haven't called ME stupid yet, Bubba Bo.
I doubt that will happen. You have proven yourself quite capable forming
coherant arguments.
Bubba Bo Bob Fett- see, we can agree to disagree and be civil about it :-)
Bubba Bo Bob Fett
Oct 26 1998
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> Actually, ethnocentrics believe that people should conform to their own
> behavior. Bubba Bo Bob and I have said time and time again that we are
> happy for you and your collecting style. Our stance is simply: to us,
> collecting an MIMB toy is stupid.
I won't go this far since I own MIB and NRFB items, but they all have
windows that allow you to see the toy or toys inside. It is the collecting
of NRFB items without windows that I think is stupid because you cannot
see the toy, thus, as far as anyone knows, you own a box. You don't know
if the toy is actually in there or not.
Bubba Bo Bob Fett-
stuntboy
Oct 27 1998
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> That you don't know what a personal attack is. You singled me out and you
> attacked my name (gee, like that hasn't already been done a million
> times). That makes it a personal attack.
Maybe. Though I was trying to convey the notion of "stupid" in more general
terms by applying it to "Bubba". You got mildly offended and that was the
purpose actually - to kinda show you where others are coming from.
I don't mind being opinionated - heck, I'm opinionated all the time. Right
here on the newsgroups at that. I think if you had prefaced "it's stupid"
with "I think" then maybe people would have reacted differently. Maybe it's
a very small thing to worry over, I dunno. It didn't have that much affect
on me. :^)
> I have not singled out anyone and
> attacked them for the way they collect. MAJOR difference.
But many people think you have done that with your comments on their
collecting styles. Perhaps people are personalizing those more than you want
them to and I think with the depth of this thread you should acknowledge that
by now.
Anyway, I have some comments abouts not being able to "see" a toy that's in a
sealed box I think you're forgetting the great photos on the box which always
make the item enclosed look so much more enticing. In most cases the toys
aren't that exciting for a 20+ year old person so they really don't matter
that much in the grand scheme of things.
Personally I think unused and mint boxed is the way to go. That way you have
case-fresh contents and a great box to go along with it.
I'd also like to suggest that we drop this thread because it's STUPID. :^P
No wait, because I THINK it's stupid. No, Er um, because I think it's been
beaten to death. Yeah, that's it.... :^)
-chris
Bubba Bo Bob Fett
Oct 27 1998
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> Maybe. Though I was trying to convey the notion of "stupid" in more general
> terms by applying it to "Bubba". You got mildly offended and that was the
> purpose actually - to kinda show you where others are coming from.
I've heard every imaginable wisecrack about thsi name. There is no way to
offend me by attacking the name because it has been ad infinitum and find
it quite funny. I just wish someone would come up with something ariginal
when they do this
> I don't mind being opinionated - heck, I'm opinionated all the time. Right
> here on the newsgroups at that. I think if you had prefaced "it's stupid"
> with "I think" then maybe people would have reacted differently. Maybe it's
> a very small thing to worry over, I dunno. It didn't have that much affect
> on me. :^)
In a declarative statement 'I think' is implied. Example; "Pulp Fiction is
a great movie."and "I think Pulp Fiction is a great movie" are exactly the
same sentence. No one should have to say or type 'I think' every time they
make a declarative statement.
> But many people think you have done that with your comments on their
> collecting styles. Perhaps people are personalizing those more than you want
> them to and I think with the depth of this thread you should acknowledge that
> by now.
Not more than I WANT then too, more like they are taking things too
personally when they shouldn't.
> Anyway, I have some comments abouts not being able to "see" a toy that's in a
> sealed box I think you're forgetting the great photos on the box which always
> make the item enclosed look so much more enticing. In most cases the toys
> aren't that exciting for a 20+ year old person so they really don't matter
> that much in the grand scheme of things.
> Personally I think unused and mint boxed is the way to go. That way you have
> case-fresh contents and a great box to go along with it.
The only type of person that I can see colecting that way is something
that collects a certain genre and just wants the item that way it was
sold. I can't seriously see a toy colelctor saying that he can't get
excited about the toy in the box. They wouldn't be a toy collector then.
Hell, I'm in my mid 30s and I am always excited when I open up a new toy,
be it vintage or new from the store. The fac that I have an 8 year old son
prolly helps too. But even when he is not around, I still play with the
toys and I am always changing my dioramas.
Bubba Bo Bob Fett- a kid 'til the day he dies
Jedi93490
Oct 27 1998
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Not to interrupt anything, but on vintage prices going down... haven't really
paid all that much attention to the Kenner toys lately, but the coin-operated
Star Wars games that were made by Atari have taken a down-ward turn as of late.
Mine aren't for sale but I thought I would contribute my 2 cents to the
discussion.
Jedi...
rude-boy
Oct 27 1998
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> I'd also like to suggest that we drop this thread because it's STUPID. :^P
> No wait, because I THINK it's stupid. No, Er um, because I think it's been
> beaten to death. Yeah, that's it.... :^)
>
> -chris
Boy Chris, you hit the nail on the head..I am so sick of reading about
this guy and his "alleged" rude comments to gosh knows who...
Jeff
Eric Allen Ehrbar
Oct 27 1998
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Agreed, owning an unopened box with a window still has a display value
that cannot exist with it opened. But an empty box without a window is ,br>
just as good as a full box.
Eric
Kevin Johnston
Oct 27 1998
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> Agreed, owning an unopened box with a window still has a display value
> that cannot exist with it opened. But an empty box without a window is
> just as good as a full box.
Actually... I don't agree. Aside from the fact that a sealed box has more
integrity insofar as remaining sealed when you pick it up and hold it, any
boxed item (sealed or not) has something an empty box does not: heft. A
toy has weight and balance, and so does a boxed toy. It has a "feel."
This sensation -- which one may recall from many trips to TRU as a kid, or
shaking a box found under the Christmas tree -- cannot be recreated with an
empty box.
It's not just about looks -- collecting any physical object offers other
sensations, like touch, heft, sound, and smell. (And taste, for the more
destructive in the audience. ;-) )
FWIW....
Kevin
Eric Allen Ehrbar
Oct 27 1998
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This is all true. And it is the best possible argument for owning an
NRFB toy. I'm not sure how often NRFB collectors pick up the box to do
those things, I don't own any. I do own carded toys and they are all
displayed in sight, and I honestly don't pick them up.
So, to me, sight is overwhelmingly the most important aspect of a toy's
packaging. And when I take that in consideration, I think it makes a lot
more sense to either open a toy and view both the box and the toy, or
just buy an empty box if the box is really important to you.
I'm not sure if this is a great comparison, but I like to collect Pink
Floyd albums. If I find an album cover, but no record in the cover, I am
just as happy. And it costs me a lot less!
Eric
Bickmore
Oct 28 1998
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> This is all true. And it is the best possible argument for owning an
> NRFB toy. I'm not sure how often NRFB collectors pick up the box to do
> those things, I don't own any. I do own carded toys and they are all
> displayed in sight, and I honestly don't pick them up.
>
> So, to me, sight is overwhelmingly the most important aspect of a toy's
> packaging. And when I take that in consideration, I think it makes a lot
> more sense to either open a toy and view both the box and the toy, or
> just buy an empty box if the box is really important to you.
>
> I'm not sure if this is a great comparison, but I like to collect Pink
> Floyd albums. If I find an album cover, but no record in the cover, I am
> just as happy. And it costs me a lot less!
>
> Eric
If prices on vintage items have been going, then it I am almost sure that
it has stopped just recently.
I was a dealer at the Kane County show(1000+ dealers) in St. Charles IL.
Star Wars havn't done well at this show for over a year. This past
show(Oct. 25th) was great for Star Wars. I sold more than half of my SW
stuff, which has just sat rotting on the table at the past few shows.
Star Wars has really picked. Many people are very interested in Star Wars
now. Vintage that is.
Chris Fawcett
Oct 30 1998
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars.collecting.vintage
> Bickmore wrote:
> If prices on vintage items have been going, then it I am almost sure that
> it has stopped just recently.
> I was a dealer at the Kane County show(1000+ dealers) in St. Charles IL.
> Star Wars havn't done well at this show for over a year. This past
> show(Oct. 25th) was great for Star Wars. I sold more than half of my SW
> stuff, which has just sat rotting on the table at the past few shows.
> Star Wars has really picked. Many people are very interested in Star Wars
> now. Vintage that is.
Hmmm. This seems odd to me. I was at this show also and I thought
there were some *great* deals to be had on vintage stuff. It *did*
seems like vintage was being to move better, but it seemed it was
because all the dealers had lowered their prices.
Cj
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